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1. RE: The best experimental writer
Apr 5 2008, 1:23 PM EDT
That's probably so. Him or Julio Cortazar or EE Cummings. It's such an arbitrary term. What does "experimental" really even mean? I used to love the word but now I think "dixie cup" would summarize the concept just as well.
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2. RE: The best experimental writer
Apr 6 2008, 12:46 AM EDT
"That's probably so. Him or Julio Cortazar or EE Cummings. It's such an arbitrary term. What does "experimental" really even mean? I used to love the word but now I think "dixie cup" would summarize the concept just as well. "since best is conceptually subjective, i find it --best to leave this space and time and travel to Rimbaud. his Egyptian hashish words resounded of mental discord and sensual rebellion..breaking with the tried and tired. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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yesman1 |
3. RE: The best experimental writer
Apr 11 2008, 12:27 PM EDT
"since best is conceptually subjective, i find it --best to leave this space and time and travel to Rimbaud. his Egyptian hashish words resounded of mental discord and sensual rebellion..breaking with the tried and tired."nadinesellers back in the mix! Breaking with the tried and tired. Awesome! 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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4. RE: The best experimental writer
Apr 20 2008, 5:43 AM EDT
"since best is conceptually subjective, i find it --best to leave this space and time and travel to Rimbaud. his Egyptian hashish words resounded of mental discord and sensual rebellion..breaking with the tried and tired."breaking with the tried and the tired" might actually be a nice definition of experimental. I have been calling myself an experimental poet for a couple of years now, but I'm starting to think that the tag doesn't really fit. I recently got a review of my book of poems (Ten/Ampersands) that said this: "I don't subscribe to the term 'experimental' because it implies that the work is an expedient means to an end and does not stand for itself, so to speak. That may be fine for the discipline of science, but it's antithetical when applied to poetry and art in general." If that is so then no poetry is really experimental because it always stands for itself. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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rmchiaia |
5. RE: The best experimental writer
Apr 20 2008, 5:48 AM EDT
Check out the full reviews of my book at http://ampersands-quetzalcoatl.blogspot.com/
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nadinesellers |
6. RE: The best experimental writer
Apr 20 2008, 11:34 AM EDT
we have gone from --best-- to -experimental--we are defining expression in letters.taking into consideration that there is no universal precept to judge artful expression. these words limit objective examination. poetry would be stagnant without its negatives. no absolutes in an esoteric medium.. no restrictions in experiment. no best in subjection. experimental is a word applied in anticipation of implied freedom outside of form and context. the term requires no thought, no search. it is an assimilable concept. whichever does not fit in the norm, the known and the tested slides conveniently into the experimental. to the poet, the author, the creator, his art is indeed an experiment, by definition: ex = out of self + peri = contours, surroundings. now to shake the terminology and carve a personalized logos. i call mine untamed poetry. because ultimately it emanates from ephemeral waves, transmitted, translated. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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7. RE: The best experimental writer
Apr 22 2008, 11:00 AM EDT
I will call mine untamed poetry! unchained poetry! unbridled, unmasked, unleashedlike a traditional kabuki dancer who comes out with no costume, no make up just self, unadorned--beautiful with all imperfection 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
Xaphoon |
8. RE: The best experimental writer
Apr 25 2008, 12:01 AM EDT
I'm not sure about the best, but I'm reading John Taggart's "loop" right. It is amazing. He tends to write in an abstract way that propels the poem with pure tone. It is hard to explain, but worth checking out. Has anyone read the "Humument" by Tom Philips? I'm not sure if you could call it "poetry,: but check out his website
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yesman1 |
9. RE: The best experimental writer
May 13 2008, 11:04 AM EDT
If you haven't already check out either "Invisible Cities", "Cosmicomics", or If on a Winter's Night a Traveler" to see Italo Calvino in his full glory.
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meltmaster |
10. RE: The best experimental writer
Jun 20 2008, 4:36 AM EDT
i think that almost all art is experimental, because they are all creations in the laboratory. but there are good experiments and bad experiments. but when I think about it, couldn't there be good art created from bad experimentation? Don Quixote is totally experimental. But is Hamlet? I don't know. Maybe it is, it's just totally awesome. Something "experimental" seems to imply a greater chance of failure.
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11. RE: The best experimental writer
Jun 20 2008, 8:56 AM EDT
"i think that almost all art is experimental, because they are all creations in the laboratory. but there are good experiments and bad experiments. but when I think about it, couldn't there be good art created from bad experimentation? Don Quixote is totally experimental. But is Hamlet? I don't know. Maybe it is, it's just totally awesome. Something "experimental" seems to imply a greater chance of failure."admit it, unless you copy, imitate or plagiarize, your formatless life is someone's experiment. outside of the perimeter of the known. line up the words as you receive them from the nous. oh and fail if you must---you may be famous. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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meltmaster |
12. RE: The best experimental writer
Jun 21 2008, 3:22 AM EDT
I suppose you think the moon landing was faked too.
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moctezuma.johnson |
13. RE: The best experimental writer
Jun 21 2008, 5:38 AM EDT
Of course it was. There's no moon! That's a conspiracy to make us all feel sleepy almost half the day.
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meltmaster |
14. RE: The best experimental writer
Jun 22 2008, 12:42 AM EDT
who is making me feel sleepy the other half?
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Tantra_Bensko |
15. RE: The best experimental writer
Nov 6 2008, 10:56 PM EST
i have to say, i do feel calvino is my favorite. if on a winters night a traveler is my favorite book. i love many others, but that's the supreme for me.i'm afraid i have to also say that the sun itself, which does not exist, makes you sleepy because you can only look at it in a sideways mirror under a red velvet cloth on your birthday. so, what do you expect it to do? 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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yesman1 |
16. RE: The best experimental writer
Nov 9 2008, 4:37 AM EST
Tantra,Good choice on the best Calvino book! Do you find this valuable? |
